Half Hue and Half Hoi An

Several days and two locations later:

We are now in the city of Hoi An, having left the boat for the flight to Hue and two nights there. I will backtrack and hopefully catch up.

Hue is a pleasant enough city, also bustling but not nearly as much as is Hanoi. We stayed at the Hotel Saigon Morin. I never figured out why Saigon is part of its name. It is an historical hotel, dating from 1901, and still has a charming ambiance.

The building fronts on the Perfume River, which our room looked out to, with a small balcony. There is a lovely interior courtyard with a pool, which we didn’t use and never saw anyone use. We did sit  in the courtyard a couple of times, once for dinner, once for drinks, accompanied by raucous frogs, whom Loring later located sitting in the fronds in planters.

The weather is warm but has not been uncomfortably hot, a good thing in general, but not conducive to lazing in a pool. There is a pool here in Hoi An too, with lots of lounge chairs and a bar. We are staying here for four days, so hopefully will get to use the pool at some point. But right now it is raining.

There is a beach a few k’s down the road, and in fact  there is a huge stretch of beach all the way from Da Nang, where we reached the coast yesterday in our drive here from Hue.

Our guide from Hue to here is Tuan, which was also Smoky in Hanoi’s real name. Each of them has been very friendly and knowledgeable and a pleasure to be with. Smoky/Tuan stayed in a hotel in Ha Long for the two days we were on the boat, although our driver there (the one who took the wrong road) was replaced by another. Smoky said it was because he had an uncle’s funeral in Hanoi to attend. But I wonder if it had something to do with the screw up. I will continue to feel terrible for him, as he no doubt will continue to feel about himself.

Here, our driver will stay with our guide, Tuan Two, for one  night, take us on a tour of the area this afternoon , and then return to Hue, while we continue to stay here.

In a couple of hours they will pick us up for a tour of the countryside, which hopefully will be interesting. There are tourists wherever we go, and most are on group tours, a way of travel we have rarely done. They are largely Asian, (Tuan says mostly Korean) and some European, and a few but not many Americans.

The only time I can remember being on a group tour was in Cuba (where it’s required) and where it was a pretty positive experience. We did sneak off for a week on our own there to stay at a b and b type place, which wasn’t hard to arrange.

This time, we opted for an arrangement that is basically a private tour. We started with a suggested itinerary, which you can tweak and change as much as you like. And as you might guess, I did a lot of tweaking and changing. Luke at the London based agency was very helpful and patient with all my queries. I somehow have a feeling I made a lot more changes than most.

The template was an 18 day itinerary, which we lengthened to 21 days. He made suggestions of hotels, to which I mostly said, too fancy, too resorty. And there were activities planned for every day, which we whittled down to about half, with a number of free days.  Thinking about it, most of the cuts involved rides of some kind, ie the back of the Vespa, no thanks, also on a WWII era Jeep (although an Australian woman we met said it was a lot of fun,) and one company, not the one we chose, had included a buffalo ride.

This arrangement has worked out very well so far, and I assume will continue to do so. All our connections, car, plane, boat, and train ( a six hour ride, yet to come, to our next destination) are arranged for us. And we have both a driver and a guide in each place. The guides speak fairly good English, the drivers nearly none.

In Hue, Tuan took us to several temples, pagodas, and mausoleums. They were all impressive, and we never would have been able to see as much on our own. The architecture is beautiful, with many surfaces painted, enameled, mosaicked,  etc. Some of the mosaics are what is called pic assiette, (by me, probably not here) which is broken pieces of pottery, plates and bowls. I thought it was a modern technique, will have to research more. Then again, none of the buildings are ancient;  old I guess by U.S. standards, 19^th century, but not ancient by Asian, as I would have guessed. They are either temples to Buddha and other gods, or to emperors, built by themselves. The mausoleums were planned by the monarchs themselves, including the tombs. Aside from not being as old as I would have guessed, they have largely been recreated. Some were damaged or destroyed by typhoons, according to Tuan. But I am thinking that much of the damage has been from bombings by the US during the Viet Nam war, (called the American War here.)

Tuan told us that the locations of the King’s tombs within the compounds was kept secret, to prevent looting, so while the general location was known, the exact spot was not.  In one case, 100 soldiers were beheaded to keep the secret, in another, apparently 200. Or so the story goes.

In Hue, the beginning of our tour was a short boat ride on the Perfume River, which ran in front of our hotel, to the Imperial City, and within it, to the Forbidden City. These compounds had gardens, ponds, places for only the king to relax, and libraries, royal theaters, sections for the concubines, etc. The kings had multiple wives and many children, but only the children of the first wife were potential heirs. I read some reference of a conflict between sons of one king for the throne, but don’t know how common that was.

The boat ride, I assume, is an element of many tourist itineraries. What impressed me was that the small boat (it could have held perhaps 10 or a dozen, but we and Tuan were the only passengers) was also the family’s home. There were a couple and a small child who peeked out briefly as we came onboard. And there were crafts of many kinds that she kindly encouraged us to buy. I did buy some silk pajamas, the jacket of which I’ve already worn several times. ( and gotten comments from locals about. They seemed happy that I’d bought them, even though not from them.) I wasn’t sure how couth or uncouth it was to wear the whole outfit in the street, especially for a foreigner. I may still.

Later in the day, back from our excursion with Tuan

We had cancelled our cooking class this morning, because neither of our stomachs felt settled. No appetite, and no appeal to the idea of cooking. We have rescheduled for tomorrow, when we hopefully both will feel better.

I had been sick for several days, violently so the first day. But Loring had been feeling fine until now.

I don’t think we have the same thing. I am pretty sure what caused mine, and have myself to blame. I did something really stupid. It's the only thing I tried, aside from perhaps sampling a couple of different things at the lavish breakfast buffet  that Loring didn’t,  so seemed obvious that was the cause. But now that mine is lingering and L has similar symptoms, who knows.

Okay, you want to know how stupid? This is how stupid:  at the small village we stopped at on the Lan Ha Bay, there was a stand where there were several varieties of local liquor : one was artichoke, two were some type of herbs, and the last, was a jar full of snakes. Yep, snakes. I tried the artichoke brew first. Strong. And then someone from another group sampled the snake potion. I could not resist trying. Strong too, of course.

That was it. Until about 3 o’clock the next morning. I’ll spare you the details but it wasn’t pretty. And I haven’t felt quite right since. Pretty much no appetite. A real shame given the wide variety of food everywhere, and especially the elaborate breakfast buffets included in all of our stays. There are all kinds of Vietnamese dishes, of course, although not what I’d expect at a breakfast. Fried rice, noodles, chicken, pork and fish dishes, along with bacon, eggs, sausage, potatoes, cheeses, meats,  wide variety of tropical fruits and juices. And yogurt, cereal, little cakes, croissants, various breads, etc. On the cruise there were soups too, at breakfast, as well as at the other meals, a different kind each day. Luckily on the boat, where all of our meals were included, I didn't imbibe the snake stuff until later in the cruise.

But since then, our few days in Hue and now Hoi An, I've stuck to Pho, fried rice, a few plain cakes and breads, and finally this am, an omelet.  And fruit, the only thing I’ve craved, but not the best thing for a queasy stomach.

On our drive here from Hue yesterday, we made a couple of stops. One was a rest stop at what was also a pearl making village. Stores full of jewelry. I was definitely tempted by some of the irregular pearls I love to use in making jewelry, but resisted. (so far. ) But there’s always Saigon.

I have purchased a few things, the silk pajamas, a couple of small bowls in the pottery village today.

We made a stop at the Marble village, replete with large shop/showrooms, each with enormous as well as smaller statues and items made of marble. They were certainly impressive, but the places were a bit of a hustle, not surprising of course. They followed us around emphasizing how they could ship anything home for us. Right, even a small marble statue could easily cost more to ship than the item itself.  But I don’t know, a life size replica of Michaelangelo’s David might look nice in the yard.

We also stopped at a place called the Marble Mountain, one of five caves in the area. There is a pagoda, and you can take an elevator up the mountain partway, which is what most people do. And then you can climb up further, which Loring and Tuan did. The cave is much more extensive then we’d imagined, even at the lower level, and more so at the top, as I gleaned from Loring’s pictures. There are all kinds of little crevices with statues of Buddha inside.

 Tuan, who is probably in his forties, was very impressed with Loring’s fortitude. And maybe even more so when we told him about Loring’s yearly wilderness backpacking trips, where they aim for the most remote places they can find, and hope to see nobody for two weeks, a goal they sometimes achieve.

Da Nang, where the Americans had a base  during the war, is a sprawling and mostly unappealing city. The beach stretches for miles, and Tuan said is very beautiful. We could see the waves but not the beach itself.

The most impressive,  although not in a good way, aspect driving thru is the number of large hotels, and more under construction, along the road opposite the beach. Worse than that are the large number of unfinished hotels. Framed in concrete structures, one after another of them, left unfinished. According to Tuan, many started construction  before the pandemic and then ran out of money. I don’t know what was more depressing, the view of building after building unfinished, or the idea of them completed.

We had seen some of the same completed and unfinished development in Halong Bay, distressing in itself, but this was more extensive and therefore worse. I can’t fault the Vietnamese for wanting to develop tourism. But development to the extent that it harms the the beauty of the country and the environment is upsetting.

I wondered if there were even parts of the country that maintained the old ways. There are, of course, and we saw a bit of that in our trip outside Hoi An today. But there is also extreme poverty.

We went to three craft villages today, not far out of the city. They are touristy, of course, but luckily we seem to have beat the tourist busses who came as we were heading out, on their day tours of several areas out of Danang or Hoi An. The first was just one family’s house where they weave multicolored grass mats which are what they sleep on, attached to a bamboo bedframe. I had a brief go at sending the shuttle through. The woman seemed very impressed that I sat on the cement, mat covered floor. There was no sign or any indication of tourist activity. I think they just sold them to the locals. No placemats or anything, only the bedsized mats and smaller ones that they used on bamboo benches as a pad as well. They sold the bed sized ones for about four dollars, and I think could make several in a day.

Next it was on to the woodworking village, which was more tourist oriented. We first visited a shop whose family were thirteenth generation woodworkers. The father was in his 80s and still working. We met the son. They made incredibly intricate carvings of gods, goddesses, a lot of other creatures and scenes, of various sizes. The talent and detail was amazing. Some must have sold for thousands of dollars. They were museum quality. The father’s work had been acknowledged by Unesco and shown in many places.  

Next was the rice paper and noodle making place. In the front a man made a variety of rice paper items, including fake money, candy, clothing, shoes, all of which was meant to be sent off with a deceased person at a funeral, and then burned.

In the back a man and a woman made rice noodles, a process they demonstrated and then invited us to try. The process involved spreading a ground rice batter in a pan,  then lifting it to a drying rack, and finally stacking a slew of them and sending them thru a kind of pasta maker.

There was also a dried variety of the same stuff, looking rather like papadan. The woman took two, made a sandwich with a wet one of the not yet noodled ones, and pounded it all to pieces like you would with Turkish taffy. I thought it was quite good, and a good snack for my unsettled stomach. Loring didn’t seem as interested.

There was one more stop, at the Ceramics village. This was the most touristed one. There was actually an admission fee. Tuan paid for us, as our guides have at all of our stops, so I don’t know what it cost. I doubt it was much, and you got a little clay whistle along with your admission.  Here there was an open air ceramics museum, which might be interesting but to which we probably won’t return. And tons of little shops and pottery studios. Again I got to try making something, this time a small pot, with some help.  There were lots of large and small bowls, teacups, etc. I bought two tiny blue and white bowls, of which I have a small collection at home. I use them mostly for sauces, especially with Asian cooking. Just as they do here. I doubt they were made at that shop, but I do think they were made in Vietnam. At least they say Made in Vietnam on the bottom. But I am also very gullible.

Well, I think I’ve caught us up. It’s now dinnertime, and we are trying to decide where and what to eat. We could easily go back to the restaurant here at the hotel. But Loring seems sure that’s what gave him the stomach bug last night.

We’ve pretty much decided that pho is the thing for both of us. Vietnamese chicken (or beef ) noodle soup for the body and soul.

Now the question is where and when. It has only rained intermittently since we’ve been here, but was pouring a few minutes ago. Now it seems to have slowed down or even stopped. Time to mobilize.

More to come.